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josephine
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Postby josephine » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:15 pm

hi Steve,
as owner of "Frances Josephine" I am also looking for the installation of a windvane-system - and reflecting on the pac light. But Peter F. seems to prefer the stronger pac. Reason: sea pressure problems in situations of backward drift. So I am thinking of a trimtab-system. Obviously some owners have this system in use. F.ex. "GYPSY" on this frances.org mainpage. ("IF"with her different formed rudder maybe also). I would be glad, if someone of those owners could give me (us) some words concerning their experiences.
Tobias
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Postby stevebncanoe » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:20 am

I have since ordered and taken delivery of the windpilot light. To get it fitted i have had to make a grp (flash) of the back of the boat (a lot of help from friends).
In the new year i will get the stainless stel bracket made and fitted.

Part of the reason for going with the idea of a slightly longer bowsprit is to achieve nearly neutral helm and give the self steering an easy time. Peter was very happy the the light version(with remote control option) should work well on such a well mannered boat.

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Postby dkgibbons » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:57 am

Has anyone used the Norvane? James Baldwin (who helped Doug with La Luz) thinks highly of it and states it is much easier to mount. There is a link to it on James' web page. Doug, your thoughts?
Dennis

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Postby josephine » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:55 am

Hi Steve - even not being sure about the best steering system I just took the chance for a Pac light for a reasonable price by ebay- I could not let it go (this gear had been before in use on a OE28, also a double-ender which is somewhat heavier than a frances). So we both could have an exchange on fitting and sailing experiences - I will be curious.
Concerning the Norvane on frances - so far I didn`t find any informations.
Tobias
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Postby stevebncanoe » Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:45 am

Excellent--big problem is getting the brackets made-have to wait into the new year to get started , although the grp flash will help.

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Postby stevebncanoe » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:16 pm

What i have done so far is made a 'flash' of the back of the boat in grp and bonded that onto a plywood base--that will form a former or jig for the fabricator to work from.

The bracket will be based on simple ones on this site eg the one on La Luz--as being the same steering system.

Best wishes
stevebn

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Postby josephine » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:43 am

stevebncanoe wrote:What i have done so far is made a 'flash' of the back of the boat in grp and bonded that onto a plywood base--that will form a former or jig for the fabricator to work from.

The bracket will be based on simple ones on this site eg the one on La Luz--as being the same steering system.

Best wishes
stevebn


Steve, I am still worrying on the windvane frame. Could you give me your data concerning the length of your windvane-ruddershaft (rotation axis to rudder-blade-axis) ? Taking my existing shaft length of 60 cm, the windvane(-axis) will have an relatively deep mounting position (~25 deeper than the stem hight).
greetings Tobias (Tobias.Menke@t-online.de)

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Re: Self Steering

Postby laluz » Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:05 pm

Sorry it has taken so long to respond---
I think any wind vane would work as long as it is properly installed. None of them will work, however, if the boat is not correctly balanced, which is pretty easy to achieve with our boats.
If I had to do it again I'd get the most inexpensive, lightweight vane I could find...So maybe the Norvane if buying new was the only option. My Pacific Windpilot was bought used, and works perfectly, but would be crazy expensive brand new. Cheers


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